Meeting 2007-10-03
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- Date: Wednesday, October 3, 2007
- Time: 8:30PM
- Place: Squires Yorktown
Attendence
Plan on coming:
Goodies
If someone wants to bring something, they can. Just put it here.
Game
Mafia round 2!? --Conley 23:05, 27 September 2007 (JST)
Hopscotch? ANTHONYANTHONYANTHONY 04:41, 28 September 2007 (JST)
Pin the tail on the Anthony? --Conley 03:59, 2 October 2007 (JST)
News
Amazon is watermarking their mp3s
Apparently it just shows where the mp3 was purchased. I don't get it. What's the point? ~ Conley 01:52, 28 September 2007 (JST)
Maybe to track it on P2P networks? ANTHONYANTHONYANTHONY 04:41, 28 September 2007 (JST)
Pretty much. Also kind of relates to what I found here a while ago. Matt 12:21, 1 October 2007 (JST)
Advertising....showing the world that they sell them...--Ron
Creative Commons releases a FAQ on the Texas family/Virgin/CC lawsuit
FAQ.
My favorite part of the FAQ: "Is Creative Commons liable? No." ~ Conley 02:25, 28 September 2007 (JST)
I have a new favorite part: "Cool (as in using Flickr, and even better, using Flickr with CC licenses) canât be a crime." ~ Conley 02:28, 28 September 2007 (JST)
OLPC announces a give one get one sale
It is supposed to happen on November 12th.
Shoot, I need $399. I so want to buy one of these. --Yashton 15:19, 2 October 2007 (JST)
I'm waiting until it actually is a $100 laptop --Conley 17:27, 2 October 2007 (JST)
The idea is nice, but frankly I think that there are more important things to give to third world countries right now than the Internet, like food and medicine. In my experience, the Internet is mostly just the world's biggest time waster. Matt 05:50, 3 October 2007 (JST)
Agreed, but if you give people technical training, they can get better jobs and improve living conditions in their country. I don't think though, that laptops will solve all problems. Aid in other areas like food and water is still going as well. Everything helps in some way. The computers are designed to do ad-hoc/mesh networking, so in principle they could get internet access, but it's mostly for cooperative learning. Computers may be a big time waster, but they are a very powerful tool. And for it being $100, "Pricing is currently set to start at US$188 and the goal is to reach the US$100 mark in 2008" (Wikipedia) Moore's law rules. I'd buy one mostly because you are helping a kid to have one. I can't imagine not having a computer to hack on.
First RIAA jury trial
Check it out on Groklaw.
It is supposed to start Tuesday.
FINALLY! Matt 12:06, 1 October 2007 (JST)
WIPO creates a copyright law workbook for children
Here.
While it's nice to see that there is at least some coverage of the PD and fair use, I still would perceive it as a biased document. It doesn't teach the children to question the present. If no one questions the present, there can be no change for the future, which is ultimately what organizations like WIPO want: to keep the status quo. Matt 12:15, 1 October 2007 (JST)
There's also this critique of the workbook, but beware. It too is heavily biased (albeit in the opposite direction). Matt 12:29, 1 October 2007 (JST)
Does anyone else have strong feelings about WIPO? I've always seen them as a fairly neutral organization (if neutral is good). -Conley 13:26, 1 October 2007 (JST)
Captain Copyright Not the first time somebody has tried to brainwash children... --Yashton 08:57, 2 October 2007 (JST)
Anthony showed that to me. Fun stuff. --Conley 09:15, 2 October 2007 (JST)
Blender's Peach project begins
See the Peach website.
It will be from the same producer of Elephants Dream, Ton Roosendaal.
Several thoughts: I wish they would make a full length movie. I hope this movie makes sense. I love Blender! -Conley 05:34, 30 September 2007 (JST)
Creative Commons announces new vice president and general counsel
Read the press release.
Creative Commons launches 3rd annual fund raising campaign
See the press release.
Radiohead tries something a little different with their latest album
Pitchforkmedia article While typical for underground bands, this is one of several big bands who are trying some new distribution methods. --Yashton 14:54, 2 October 2007 (JST)
Zune store to sell DRM-free music
Puppy Linux 3.0 is out
Sony says that ripping CDs is "stealing"
Linky. This isn't the first time this happened either.
SGA stuff
Let's see if Sarah has anything to tell us
Mapping party
Let's see what Chris has to tell us about what is involved.
Amping the advertising
Check out all potential advertising
Press release
Let's see what Bethany has.
OR: Let's see if anyone wants to help/pressure Bethany. What is a good length for things like this? Bethany 03:06, 4 October 2007 (JST)
Flyers and cards
Ashton should have flyers done by Monday, and we can flyer buildings then.
Public service announcements on WUVT/VTTV
Let's see if Ashton has any more info.
A-frame
Did Conley, Ashton, and Sarah do this?
We need to set up some time this weekend to do this (Friday afternoon/Saturday morning?). I've got all the tools, and probably enough wood in my parent's attic here in town.--Yashton 14:57, 2 October 2007 (JST)
Halloween public domain movie night
Halloween public domain movie night
What's the status?
Free the Collegiate Times
What's the status?
JCOTS Meeting
Conley is going to give a summary of the meeting.
4 minute film competition
Duff and Conley got 4th place. From the website:
The top four teams will present their videos Thursday, October 4th at 4:00pm at the Armory building on the Virginia Tech campus.
We invite the winning teams to tell us a little about their film-making experiences. So mark your calendars one more time as we conclude the first annual Four-Minute Film Festival.
This will be a good chance to throw out a plug for the club. Does anyone have any thoughts on what I should say? -Conley 03:34, 1 October 2007 (JST)
Show and tell
Will Ashton bring some of his knitting?
Anthony should sign his comments -Conley 03:35, 1 October 2007 (JST)
Open floor
Anyone know how to get the comments in dotted boxes to wrap around the frame? On Firefox it looks like they are running off of the page. Matt 12:16, 1 October 2007 (JST)
Yea, I have that problem too. I just make new lines manually so it doesn't happen on my monitor. -Conley 13:26, 1 October 2007 (JST)
We need to try and make sure a the meeting that everyone knows about the wiki, and knows how to make a user, since i see only a few of us making edits. --Yashton 15:15, 2 October 2007 (JST)
I think a lot of people know how, but are too lazy too (or just have better things to do) --Conley 17:27, 2 October 2007 (JST)
There should probably be a page on how to edit wikis too. If possible, it might be a good idea to skin MediaWiki so that it looks like the main site, or at least put an image in the upper left corner. Matt 05:53, 3 October 2007 (JST)
I have shell access to the fc.o server so someone make me an image and I'll do it. Also, feel free to start a wiki editing page and a sandbox. --Conley 06:01, 3 October 2007 (JST)
Minutes
Meeting 10/03
Meeting 10/03
These minutes are being lovingly taken by Sarah (bold comments) and Beth (italicized comments) with guest commentary by Ashton (underlined)
People Present:
Matt
James
Fridan we did our best, sorry
Duff
Mitch
Conley
Sarah
Beth T.
Jon Claude (a fascinating combination of German and French)
Ashton
Noticeably Absent:
Beth?
Chris
Anthony
Simply Absent:
Robert
Spent 20 minutes blatantly cheating and teasing those who were less efficient in their cheating
Wasted 15 minutes on band names and sandwiches that no one will remember (it hurts my soul)
Duff has developed a deep appreciation for BLTs
Roast beef has been decided as the best lunch meat
We repeated the above process (like nine times)
We debated the truth behind rumors that Amazon is watermarking mp3s
We went through yet more acronyms that I donât understand (watermarking the ID3 tags)
Conley needs a gavel
Conley tries to impress the New Guy with his ultimate authority
1 laptop per child program ($100 laptopsâ¦wow Iâm jealous)
--(donât be jealous⦠theyâre very lame. They might require hand-cranking for electricity.)
HAHA they really do have an external hand crankâ¦.mind reading points for Sarah
Conley wants to get a $100 laptop so he can crank it like a lawnmower
Not ghetto in the slightest
We learned that âbrainwashing children is a lovely thingâ (thank you Captain Copyright)
WIPO â World Intellectual Property Organization
Peach project is sequel to âElephantâs Dreamâ to advertise Blender
- random laughter****
Creative Commons has a new vice president lady who is a pretty famous lawyer and whose name is âI donât have it hereâ
You can pay 75 dollars for a free T-shirt, or buy one for 25
The Caveman show debuted yesterday
Time for a new colorâ¦.sorry, black and white bores me
What does everyone think the world is going to be like 50 years from now? Apparently, itâs the âsingularityâ, that Conley wishes not to discuss.
More slander of Microsoftâ¦..this should count as a sport
I give them only a 6.5 for lack of originality.
Anthony wanders in late and tries to take over the minute-taking
We refuse to let him.
Our notes have way more character anyway.
My apologies to our member in Roanoke who might actually wonder what weâre doing. We will take better notes next time.
Correctionâwe will intend to take better notes next time, but chances are we wonâtâ¦.terribly sorry
Tangents abound.
Ashton decides he is against flying cars.
[Actual news]: The Zune store now sells MP3s without DRMs.
iTunes does the same thing
Puppy Linux 3.0 is outâ¦.small enough to be put on a memory stickâ¦.fastest thing ever
Cute enough name to make me convert.
I really like that it fits on a memory stickâ¦.that way I can lose my entire operating system
We can install Linux on a dead badger
â¦
I find this beyond comment:
FYI⦠http://www.strangehorizons.com/2004/20040405/badger.shtml
Sarah has just come to the realization that we donât do terribly much.
âToaster PC runs BSD and makes toastâ
Conversation spits and goodness only knows whatâs happening now.
I am finding Ashton to be the only one using words I understand. Yay for Ashton!!!
I concur.
Even Conley is lost.
Taking minutes is definitely more fun than I expectedâ¦.i think Sarah and I have really found our calling
I concur.
Conley is pulling together his leadership skills.
Attendance at the SGA meeting has become the new guy hazing. No one wants to go.
Beth and Sarah will go to the SGA meeting next week (supposedlyâ¦I am planning on a deadly illness that day)
Weâll take one for the team here, and get in a good nap.
Sarah is such a team-playerâ¦.
Flyering will take place on Thursday 10/4 and Friday 10/5 at 12:15, 1:00, 2:00, 3:00
Weâre talking about coating our posters with laxatives and broken glass. Do laxatives absorb through skin?
(Conley exerts his athoritah)
Wowâ¦.laxatives would so not convince me to join a clubâ¦.points for creativity though
Conley has agreed to Anthonyâs secretary in exchange for the ability to use Anthonyâs phone
Ashtonâs fliers look really cool
Conley will email everyone about next weekâs meeting location
Jon Claude needs to be added to the listserv
We have, surprisingly enough, not scared him off.
I really like xkcd comics
Duff lets us all know that only the Sith deal in absolutes
Ashton will be making table cards to distribute in the dining halls.
I have like zero attention spanâ¦.ooops
Weâre planning on having a radio show, which sounds like a fantastic idea. Tuesday night, 12-2am. (yay!)
Ashton suggests getting drunk before getting on the air because alcohol is forbidden at the actual radio station
Coolâ¦.i will totally listen to this
Iâll definitely show up at least once to hang out as they broadcast.
I have way too many early classes on Wednesday to actually go, but Iâll be there in spirit
New color again
Purple beats pink any day.
Hey, that was totally magenta
Fun Fact: when on the radio, most people lower the pitch of their voice and talk differently
The international organization changed their official name to âStudents for Free Cultureâ
Anthony would prefer âFriends of Free Cultureâ.
Ashton is in charge of taking care of WVUT
We plan on making an A frame for our sign.
Things are âstill cookingâ with the Halloween movie night; the Virginia Tech Union are being very cooperative, and weâre getting the double feature of âNight of the Living Deadâ and âThe Brain that Wouldnât Dieâ
We debate over the definition of paradox.
Duff volunteered to burn the DVDs for movie night.
Oscar Wilde is Very Cool
There was a JOCTS meeting on Monday, and theyâre starting an open education initiative.
Conley, Duff, and Anthony are arguing, but as far as I can tell, they all agreeâ¦.
The 4-minute film festival was a success
I went, it was cool
I concur.
Anyway, our team got 4th place
There is a Roanoke Times Poll for the most-liked movie
Ashton has joined the commentary team he is underlined Hi Ashton
Awards ceremony @ 4 tomorrow in the Armory
I am glad to know that I am not the only navigationally challenged person
Most certainly not.
10:03âwe have fallen apart.
Haâ¦we fell apart a long long time ago
Yeah, I donât think weâve been together ever⦠(Ashton as a guest speaker)
We were pretty united in our cheating efforts
Nothing for Show and Tell
It is now open floor
Its been open floor for a whileâ¦.
Ashton should have brought his knitting.
Ashton knits? Cool
yeah, Iâll show the pattern here.
We are Done----we all agree
OK, there's a word doc of this stuff...if you want it let me know. Next time we should probably take minutes directly on the wiki. --128.173.54.254 13:21, 4 October 2007 (JST) the world doc >> wiki. UPLOADUPLOADUPLOAD it.
